Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 05:37:49 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <5HzCP.849161$_N6e.30979@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 06:37:50 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5bd54a469864e51d6d2ae233a534213f"; logging-data="2686969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18iNud1ErgakpSpmif8q7gF" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IyArXfeebBviQmGVklBcGIQepYI= On 2025-03-19, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-03-19 01:00, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-03-18, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:33:50 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> Having discovered that Ubuntu intends to replace the GNU utilities with >>>> Rust equivalents which may or may not work as well in the coming months, >>>> I switched over to Linux Mint 22.1 from Ubuntu 24.04 on this old Macbook >>>> Air 2017. Not only does it bundle the necessary, proprietary wireless >>>> drivers allowing for a smooth install unlike Ubuntu, but Linux Mint runs >>>> a _lot_ faster under Cinnamon than Ubuntu's implementation of GNOME. I >>>> imagine that most of it is due to the use of Snap. For example, >>>> LibreOffice went from taking about ten seconds to load (on a cold start) >>>> to one or two. >>> >>> I don't have a Macbook or a Cinnamon installation but LibreOffice Writer >>> comes up in less than 2 seconds on my Ubuntu box. Also, it is not a snap. >> >> I'm definitely not a fan of Snaps. And nothing I've seen about them or >> experienced with them lately is likely to change my mind. > > If anyone out there is a fan of Snaps, then there is a chance they might > not be fans of Ubuntu itself. The idea of switching out the GNU tools > that work perfectly well in favour of rewritten Rust ones is just > idiotic. I would trust the people who produced the GNU tools decades ago > a lot more than the filthy hippies who will rewrite them in Rust for a > theoretical benefit in regards to memory. I'm definitely not a fan of Ubuntu, due both to Snaps and Gnome. Mostly Snaps now, as I think I could get used to Gnome if I had to. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien