X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7f02:: with SMTP id f2mr6936984qtk.601.1643389329835; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 09:02:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:e003:: with SMTP id x3mr5780478oig.155.1643389329571; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 09:02:09 -0800 (PST) Path: ...!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.logic Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 09:02:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7a7cb3e4-5192-4270-8289-c451192d81a9n@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=77.57.53.70; posting-account=UjEXBwoAAAAOk5fiB8WdHvZddFg9nJ9r NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.57.53.70 References: <7c75885a-d321-4380-8d83-735c1b7cca85n@googlegroups.com> <7a7cb3e4-5192-4270-8289-c451192d81a9n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Resolving Burse's Paradox From: Mostowski Collapse Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:02:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Bytes: 3194 Lines: 70 Now use your function axiom, and Russells constructions of ~(x e N), to prove that there is a function that satisfies your axiom, but disagrees with your conclusion. Hence your system gets inconsistent. Dan Christensen schrieb am Freitag, 28. Januar 2022 um 16:58:06 UTC+1: > On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 10:36:13 AM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote: > > It was a simple mistake of a faulty definition of a function. Take, for example, an identity function f on N. It could properly be defined as follows: > > > > ALL(a):ALL(b):[a in N & b in N => [f(a)=b <=> a=b]] > > > > (Yes, it can be defined more succinctly, but this will be best demonstrate the error in Burse's Paradox.) > > > > What is f(x) here if x is NOT an element of N? It is not defined here. Simple as that. Jan Burse on the other hand, might have defined it as follows: > > > > ALL(a):ALL(b):[f(a)=b <=> a in N & b in N & a=b] > > > > Looks reasonable to the untrained eye, but if x is not element of N, we must conclude that f(x)=/=x. (Proof left as an exercise to the reader.) > Oh, alright! Here it is: > > 1. ALL(a):ALL(b):[f(a)=b <=> a in n & b in n & a=b] > Axiom > > 2. ~t in n > Premise > > 3. ALL(b):[f(t)=b <=> t in n & b in n & t=b] > U Spec, 1 > > 4. f(t)=t <=> t in n & t in n & t=t > U Spec, 3 > > 5. [f(t)=t => t in n & t in n & t=t] > & [t in n & t in n & t=t => f(t)=t] > Iff-And, 4 > > 6. f(t)=t => t in n & t in n & t=t > Split, 5 > > 7. t in n & t in n & t=t => f(t)=t > Split, 5 > > 8. ~[t in n & t in n & t=t] => ~f(t)=t > Contra, 6 > > 9. ~[~[~t in n | ~t in n] & t=t] => ~f(t)=t > DeMorgan, 8 > > 10. ~~[~~[~t in n | ~t in n] | ~t=t] => ~f(t)=t > DeMorgan, 9 > > 11. ~~[~t in n | ~t in n] | ~t=t => ~f(t)=t > Rem DNeg, 10 > > 12. ~t in n | ~t in n | ~t=t => ~f(t)=t > Rem DNeg, 11 > > 13. ~t in n | ~t in n > Arb Or, 2 > > 14. ~t in n | ~t in n | ~t=t > Arb Or, 13 > > 15. ~f(t)=t > Detach, 12, 14 > > 16. ALL(a):[~a in n => ~f(a)=a] > Conclusion, 2 > > Dan