Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly halt --- templates and infinite sets Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 19:53:15 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 02:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0a722b73a14c6c7bef786c05822a9348"; logging-data="1450587"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cT2Or+9W4K5k4T3MeIoGa" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:T5dU3zMXAezjP6qfyO17+9nC0fQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2539 On 5/29/2024 7:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/29/24 8:21 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/29/2024 7:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 5/29/24 8:01 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/29/2024 6:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> *Formalizing the Linz Proof structure* >>>>>> ∃H  ∈ Turing_Machines >>>>>> ∀x  ∈ Turing_Machines_Descriptions >>>>>> ∀y  ∈ Finite_Strings >>>>>> such that H(x,y) = Halts(x,y) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And since NO H, can get right the H^ built to contradict IT, that >>>>> claim is proven false. >>>>> >>>> >>>> YOU KEEP TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH CHANGING THE SUBJECT >>>> THE ABOVE FORMALIZATION IS CORRECT >>>> >>> >>> How? >>> >> >> The above is the question that Linz asks and the he gets >> an answer of no, no such H exists. >> >> > > So, you now agree with Linz. Good. > I said that Linz says that. The point is that the Linz template examines an infinite set of Turing Machine / input pairs the same way my H/D template references an infinite set of C function / input pairs. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer