Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Quit Shopping For Fun Date: 20 May 2024 17:42:40 GMT Organization: Stefan Ram Lines: 30 Expires: 1 Feb 2025 11:59:58 GMT Message-ID: References: <875xv9v1xk.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <871q5xufy9.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de xfuKoPU/NhiYOwYIewjo4g24caTmhFqhVZXRZN335BDZuW Cancel-Lock: sha1:BRrE4U4NqdQaBtawfoDT446BqJs= sha256:FyYJbP4QRdtrU2V6zD+/iGDDUCZoMKJ6D4Tdlpbwjlw= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2024 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved. Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the Web, to change URIs of this article into links, and to transfer the body without this notice, but quotations of parts in other Usenet posts are allowed. X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is set, because this prevents some services to mirror the article in the web. But the article may be kept on a Usenet archive server with only NNTP access. X-No-Html: yes Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3171 Rich wrote or quoted: >Stefan Ram wrote: >>To avoid poisoned Subject lines on Usenet, I start a brand new >>thread if I want to respond to something written under a poisoned >>Subject lines. >There is no need for a new thread to change the subject line. Just >change the subject line to a "non-poisned" one. The post will (if >using a proper Usenet reader) still be linked into the hierarchy of the >replies connected to the original one. Yes. And in such cases such a linking is exactly what I want to avoid. In my opinion, today, it's not enough anymore to only take into consideration how something looks using a proper newsreader. One also might want to think about how it will look when mirrored in the Web. In the Web, a post with a changed subject might still appear on a page titled by the original subject. Back in the day when mirroring on the web wasn't such a common practice, I didn't just tweak the subject line, but was a stickler for adhering to the "(was: ...)" convention to a T, and if I need to change a subject line that isn't poisoned, I still do it this way. BTW: Above I used the suggestion "poisoned Subject" I got from a translation service. Thinking about it then, I wondered whether "tainted Subject" would be more apt. Both are translations of the German "vergiftet", but I know "tainted" from "tainted love" and "tainted Subject" seems to be similar in the idea. - And I used an uppercase "S" in "Subject" because thats the exact tag of the Subject line in a Usenet post.