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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- rewritten
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:46:12 -0500
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On 6/14/2024 3:03 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 14.jun.2024 om 21:18 schreef olcott:
>> On 6/14/2024 2:00 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 14.jun.2024 om 14:49 schreef olcott:
>>>> I ran the actual code to verify the facts.
>>>> HH1(DD,DD) does not have a pathological relationship to its input
>>>> thus this input terminates normally.
>>>
>>> Your terminology is confusing. What you call a "pathological 
>>> relationship" is that H must simulate itself.
>>>
>>
>> *CONVENTIONAL TERMINOLOGY*
>> For any program H that might determine whether programs halt, a
>> "pathological" program D, called with some input, can pass its own
>> source and its input to H and then specifically do the opposite of what
>> H predicts D will do. No H can exist that handles this case.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
> 
> The problem is that your simulator does not even reach the 
> "pathological" part of D. 

That is not the problem that is the criterion measure of a solution.

_D()
[00000cfc](01) 55          push ebp
[00000cfd](02) 8bec        mov ebp,esp
[00000cff](03) 8b4508      mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000d02](01) 50          push eax       ; push D
[00000d03](03) 8b4d08      mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000d06](01) 51          push ecx       ; push D
[00000d07](05) e800feffff  call 00000b0c  ; call H
[00000d0c](03) 83c408      add esp,+08
[00000d0f](02) 85c0        test eax,eax
[00000d11](02) 7404        jz 00000d17
[00000d13](02) 33c0        xor eax,eax
[00000d15](02) eb05        jmp 00000d1c
[00000d17](05) b801000000  mov eax,00000001
[00000d1c](01) 5d          pop ebp
[00000d1d](01) c3          ret
Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d]

This is just over-your-head. I give up.

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