Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tom Bola Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 21:48:02 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <29c99292-805f-4f34-a1c8-ce1c7cd82f75@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 21:48:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="90caa28ece24e7910630b90b4873213f"; logging-data="1185276"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18FTj29HXe62jma0Q1/JBi1B0i3SMtEAZo=" User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wSeDILDbdPd/+xUaq1x74oMXeFw= Bytes: 2426 WM schrieb: > Le 16/04/2024 à 18:38, Mike Terry a écrit : >> On 16/04/2024 16:05, WM wrote: >>> Le 16/04/2024 à 02:35, Mike Terry a écrit : >>>> On 15/04/2024 14:00, Tom Bola wrote: >>> >>>>> 0, 1, 2, 3, ...,   w,   w+1,   w+2,   w+3, ...     w+w >>>>> |  |  |  |  |||    |     |      |      >>>>> |            | >>>>> 0, 2, 4, 6, ..., w*2, w*2+2, w*2+4, w*2+6, ... w*2+w*2 >>>> >>>> Should be: >>>> >>>> 0, 1, 2, 3, ...,   w,   w+1,   w+2,   w+3, ...     w+w >>>> |  |  |  |  |||    |     |      |      >>>> |            | >>>> 0, 2, 4, 6, ..., w*2, w*2+1, w*2+2, w*2+3, ... w*2+w*2 >>> >>> No. (ω+1)*2 = ω*2 + 2 >> >> No, you need to learn how ordinal arithmetic works: >> > I see: 1 + ω = ω. > > Nevertheless the question remains where in the second row is ω located, > doesn't it?. NOPE - because w is not in the IMAGE of your f(ord) = 2*ord Das Bild deiner Verdoppelungsfunktion enthält das w nicht, sondern das w ist im Urbild, und im Bild der Funktion ist dann STATTDESSEN w*2 drin -- Bitte kapier das nun endlich mal!