Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory
Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:30:28 -0500
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 33
Message-ID: <v4a1jk$15ems$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v44i60$3jnc8$1@dont-email.me> <v44o5t$3l9t2$1@dont-email.me>
 <v44r29$3egpa$5@i2pn2.org> <v44rd0$3m841$2@dont-email.me>
 <v44sa5$3egpa$10@i2pn2.org> <v44suh$3m841$4@dont-email.me>
 <v44toi$3egp9$13@i2pn2.org> <v44ujh$3m841$6@dont-email.me>
 <v4508h$3egpa$11@i2pn2.org> <v45pfb$3ph0$1@dont-email.me>
 <v45q1d$3h641$7@i2pn2.org> <v45qvp$41qf$1@dont-email.me>
 <v46na2$3ifov$2@i2pn2.org> <v478g9$hcgj$1@dont-email.me>
 <v48gh2$3kcoe$2@i2pn2.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:30:29 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7511da41317e1c66c22f772cd659795f";
	logging-data="1227484"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19quu52Jk24Uqwo6ydaFyYJ"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:sjKK+2/tZdSF7Wn+cC/gX6LdYZQ=
In-Reply-To: <v48gh2$3kcoe$2@i2pn2.org>
Content-Language: en-US
Bytes: 2679

On 6/10/2024 10:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/10/24 12:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is
>> whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker.
>>
>> This entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes
>> expression X true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue.
>>
>> Then it is self-evident that this <is> the way that truth really works.
>>
> 
> So, how does that apply to something that isn't a part of "the 
> universe", as Formal Logic systems are not.
> 

*STOPPING AT YOUR FIRST RIDICULOUSLY HUGE MISTAKE*
In other words you are saying that formal system have never
existing in any way what-so-ever?

> Their concept of truth is NOT related to any of the facts about our 
> universe, but only their wholely self-contained system, built on the 
> agreed upon manner.
> 
> I think your problem is you just can't handle that level of abstraction.
> 
> Just like you can't understand a logic system allowing "inconsistant 
> behavior" as not being "wrong".

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer