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From: Tim Rentsch
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: The difference between strtol() and strtoul() ?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:28:37 -0700
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scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Tim Rentsch writes:
>
>> Ben Bacarisse writes:
>>
>> [range questions for strtol(), etc]
>>
>>> I think there /is/ something problematic with the wording about the
>>> negation. It happens "in the return type" but how can
>>> 9223372036854775808 be negated in the type long long int? OK, the
>>> negated value can be /represented/ in the type long long int but that's
>>> not quite the same thing. On the othee hand, for the unsigned return
>>> types, the negation "in the return type" is what produces ULONG_MAX for
>>> "-1" when the negated value, -1, can't be /represented/ in the return
>>> type. It's a case where, over the years, I've just got used to what's
>>> happening.
>>
>> I understand what these functions do, but their specification in the
>> C standard is a little off. To my way of thinking the impact is
>> minimal, but the specified behavior is either unequivocally wrong or
>> there are some cases that give rise to undefined behavior.
>
> I think you're both overthinking it.
You aren't saying anything. Do you have something to
say that actually has positive information content?