Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:02:26 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:02:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="709260"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4194 Lines: 76 On 6/21/24 9:01 AM, olcott wrote: > On 6/21/2024 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 20.jun.2024 om 16:12 schreef olcott: >>> On 6/20/2024 3:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 20.jun.2024 om 02:00 schreef olcott: >>>>> This shows all of the steps of HH0 simulating DDD >>>>> calling a simulated HH0 simulating DDD >>>>> >>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HH0_(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >>>>> *Some of the key instructions are color coded* >>>>> GREEN---DebugStep Address >>>>> RED-----HH Address >>>>> YELLOW--All of the DDD instructions >>>>> CYAN----Return from DebugStep to Decide_Halting_HH >>>>> >>>>> _DDD() >>>>> [000020a2] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020a3] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD >>>>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0 >>>>> [000020af] 83c404     add esp,+04   ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020b2] 5d         pop ebp       ; housekeeping >>>>> [000020b3] c3         ret           ; never gets here >>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3] >>>>> >>>>> Exactly which step of DDD emulated by H0 was emulated >>>>> incorrectly such that this emulation would be complete? >>>>> AKA DDD emulated by H0 reaches machine address [000020b3] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> If the simulation of a program with a loop of 5 iterations is >>>> aborted after 3 iterations, all instructions are correctly >>>> simulated. Nevertheless, it is an incorrect simulation, because it >>>> should simulate up to the final state of the program. >>>> >>> >>> It would be helpful if you answer the actual question being asked >>> right here and thus not answer some other question that was asked >>> somewhere else. >> >> If you do not understand that I answered the question why the >> simulation is incorrect, it is hopeless. The question which >> instruction is incorrect is not the right question. >> > > If you say that something is incorrect and can't be specific > then your rebuttal is pure bluster with no actual basis. > > You need to show every single freaking step of exactly > DDD correctly emulated by HH0 reaches past its own > machine address [0000209b] or all you have is BULLSHIT! > Which proves your duplicity, since no one is claiming that. YOU are the only one coonsered about the strawman of "Correctly simulated by H" > _DDD() > [00002093] 55               push ebp > [00002094] 8bec             mov ebp,esp > [00002096] 6893200000       push 00002093 ; push DDD > [0000209b] e853f4ffff       call 000014f3 ; call HH0 > [000020a0] 83c404           add esp,+04 > [000020a3] 5d               pop ebp > [000020a4] c3               ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [000020a4] > > Maybe I need to make that my boilerplate reply to > everything that you ever say about anything until > you admit that you are wrong. > And just prove that you are not intereseted in HONEST dialog, only sidetracking rebuttals that you can't handle.