Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Snidely Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: "a Pair of Panties" ????? Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 15:25:52 -0700 Organization: Dis One Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: snidely.too@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 00:25:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c358278c3fed3515619c2694ee8accbc"; logging-data="3650097"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19f3FQGtkYVTzkWg/ontAikymJ2R1Nnoak=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:dcuTv8Mrmy12z34SZdeSy2+0BvY= X-ICQ: 543516788 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2686 On Friday or thereabouts, wugi asked ... > Op 4/07/2024 om 19:09 schreef Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2024-07-04 17:03:35 +0000, wugi said: >> >>> Op 1/07/2024 om 7:56 schreef Hibou: >>>> Le 01/07/2024 à 04:44, HenHanna a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> A pair of pants,    or    A pair of trousers >>>>> >>>>>                   ... ok because each Pair kinda looks like  [2 pipes]. >>>>> >>>>>     ...but... >>>>>               "a Pair of Panties" ????? >>>> >>>> There appears to be a class of things that exist only in the plural - a >>>> pair of tweezers, scissors, pliers, sunglasses... trousers, underpants, >>>> knickers, tights... - things that bifurcate or are made up of two bits. I >>>> suppose the briefer garments inherited the plural from longer ones >>>> (though a few minutes' searching yields no support for this; briefs were >>>> apparently in use in Ancient Egypt). >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> Why does English name all these things as pairs, being a single object? >>> Others like French have a few (lunettes, ciseaux). >> >> But pantalon is singular, though the English word derived from it, >> pantaloons,is plural. > > Not an explanation, but it seems like a demonstration of how English likes to > see things in "double" ;-) > >>> Others like Dutch have none of it in plural or "dual". > > Even twins are just one "tweeling". What is term for each individual twin? > >>> Any historic reason? Nah, happened mostly in the quiet times. /dps -- You could try being nicer and politer > instead, and see how that works out. -- Katy Jennison