Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Does the number of nines increase? Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 05:08:33 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <79JoZp5bHCH4hf4J9cxbLGeMvPE@jntp> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 05:08:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f7b47e05a7b4f9518fb2a2693f1d498d"; logging-data="1160552"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19qDx6kq2G6h4rixTRlydV7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:VD1KL/UQf4ySTvvHgqh9MGfXWn4= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3178 Am 16.07.2024 um 04:55 schrieb Moebius: > Repost: > > Am 16.07.2024 um 04:02 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >> On 7/15/2024 6:57 PM, Moebius wrote: > >>> See? 😛 > >> I see that you increased the granularity from natural numbers into the unit fractions... > Yeah, the real numbers comprise the naturals, the integers, the unit > fractons, the rational numbers, ..., you know. 🙂 > >> Wrt enumeration unit fractions I like to go from 1/1, to 1/2, to 1/3, ect... > > > You may like to do that, still: > > 0 < ... < 1/3 < 1/2 < 1/1. > > Meaning: Concening the < relation as _defined on the reals_ (as well on > the rationals) 1/3 is SMALLER than 1/2 and 1/2 is smaller than 1/1. In > general: 1/(n+1) is smaller than 1/n. > >> Is that wrong? > > Nope. You may define a SEQUENCE (of unit fractions): > > (1/1, 1/2, 1/3, ...) > > Here (referring to these sequence) 1/1 is "before", say, 1/2. 🙂 > >> we have to think of a a smallest unit fraction, WM world, right? > > Right. There simply is no such unit fraction because for each and every > unit fraction u: 1/(1/u + 1) is a unit fraction that is smaller than u. Of course, we may consider the set {1/1, 1/2, 1/3, ...} of all unit fractions and define a certain order << on it, such that 1/1 << 1/2 << 1/3 << ... . But this is NOT the order WM is referring to. WM is referring to the usual order < as defined on the reals (or rationals). There 0 < ... < 1/3 < 1/2 < 1/1. Nuff said. (Ufff...)