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From: joes
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as
non-halting V2
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 22:40:03 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:31:33 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 7/13/2024 9:21 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Sat, 13 Jul 2024 08:34:55 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 7/13/2024 8:24 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Sat, 13 Jul 2024 08:04:01 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 7/13/2024 7:20 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 13.jul.2024 om 13:39 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>> On 7/13/2024 3:15 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>> Op 13.jul.2024 om 01:19 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2024 5:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/24 10:56 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> As soon as the decider correctly determines that itself would never
>>>>> halt unless is aborts the simulation of its input the decider is
>>>>> required to abort this simulation.
>>>> Which decider is aborting here, the simulated or the outer one?
>>>> A decider always halts, so it cannot find itself non-halting.
>>> The executed decider is always correct to abort the simulation of any
>>> damn thing that would cause itself to never halt.
>> Which is definitely not itself. Simulating a decider is guaranteed to
>> halt. Same as a simulator that aborts.
> It cannot abort the simulation of itself because itself is not
> simulated.
It certainly is, because the DDD that it simulates calls HHH.
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Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott:
Objectively I am a genius.