Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as non-halting V2 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 12:31:37 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <97e0632d0d889d141bdc6005ce6e513c53867798@i2pn2.org> <73002e2c01a3e0e25970368972b0cbd63b2259eb@i2pn2.org> <6b7d5975ca67ce8e8cc382bca3cb8e163651b34f@i2pn2.org> <57941999a59cec1606b32d7e826220090ef6a0d8@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:31:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3137773"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3593 Lines: 53 On 7/13/24 12:19 PM, olcott wrote: > On 7/13/2024 11:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 7/13/24 11:34 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 7/13/2024 10:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 7/13/24 11:15 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In other words when you are very hungry you have the >>>>> free will to decide that you are not hungry at all >>>>> and never eat anything ever again with no ill effects >>>>> to your health what-so-ever. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Just shows that though I have free will, I am also in a Universe >>>> with a lot of determinism. >>>> >>>>> Try and use this free will to make a square circle. >>>> >>>> Nope, just shows you don't know what you are talking about and need >>>> to switch to Red Herring because you lost the argument. >>>> >>>> Face it, all you have proved is that you are nothing but a pathetic >>>> ignorant pathological lying idiot. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After HHH has already aborted its simulation of DDD >>>>>>> and returns to the DDD that called it is not the same >>>>>>> behavior as DDD simulated by HHH that must be aborted. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Right, and the question is about the behavior of DDD, >>>>> >>>>> the input finite string not an external process that HHH >>>>> has no access to. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Right, but the program it represents, and the question is about IS. >>>> >>> >>> HHH cannot be correctly required to report on the behavior >>> of an external process that it has no access to. >>> >> >> But it has access to the complete representation of it. >> > > In other words you are still hungry AFTER you filled > yourself with food BECAUSE you are the same person > thus the change in process state DOES NOT MATTER. > Maybe you need to stop eating so much Herring with Red Sauce, and focus on some of the errors pointed out in your logic rather than just ignoring them, which, in effect, just admitss that you have no idea how to get out of your lies.