Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:48:59 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <8b2d82a100c9840834dde28136dc3b2c46f416b6@i2pn2.org> References: <38ec6fd291b3b6d6f41db8be499a710a8abe39f9@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:48:59 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="537321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2188 Lines: 26 Am Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:16:24 +0000 schrieb WM: > Le 27/07/2024 à 13:27, Richard Damon a écrit : >> On 7/27/24 7:13 AM, WM wrote: >>> Le 27/07/2024 à 04:23, Richard Damon a écrit : >>> >>>> By your logic, if you take a set and replace every element with a >>>> number that is twice that value, it would by the rule of construction >>>> say they must be the same size. >>> >>> That is true in potential infinity. But I assume actual infinity. >>>> >> So, what part is not true? > In potential infinity there is no ω. Neither is there in actual infinity. >> Are you stating that replacing every element with another unique >> distinct element something that make the set change size? Yes they are. > In actual infinity the number of elements of any infinite set is fixed. > Doubling all elements of the set ℕ U ω = {2, 4, 6, ..., ω} yields the > set {2, 4, 6, ..., ω, ω+2, ω+4, ..., ω*2}. I wonder how you get the second infinity. What is the preimage of all the omegas? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.