Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality References: <9xKV2FrNFAjW0MsxhKvnP9dPB4w@jntp> <8G0IFYrPqHdBEH1pzbz9ifVRvd0@jntp> <11698e94cb8361b62f1686b64d6351a9720d4d3d@i2pn2.org> <1b259a91952c93a56ad1e0063a2d7440aed185f2@i2pn2.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic JNTP-HashClient: XAPgLbxdR93I6RgrswSen0Hm0kE JNTP-ThreadID: KFm3f7lT2HjaTSiMfnv5xqZoSBw JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=rHIaB-dFODVqSY7-aRnf4ItTyG0@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Wed, 31 Jul 24 14:27:06 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/127.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="82b75c1d0a83e677ff646b52485f72f8b23749df"; logging-data="2024-07-31T14:27:06Z/8970565"; posting-account="217@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: WM Bytes: 2708 Lines: 40 Le 31/07/2024 à 03:28, Richard Damon a écrit : > On 7/30/24 1:37 PM, WM wrote: >> Le 30/07/2024 à 03:18, Richard Damon a écrit : >>> On 7/29/24 9:11 AM, WM wrote: >> >>>>> But what number became ω when doubled? >> >> ω/2 > > And where is that in {1, 2, 3, ... w} ? In the midst, far beyond all definable numbers, far beyond ω/10^10. > > The input set was the Natural Numbers and w, ω/10^10 and ω/10 are dark natural numbers. >>>> If all natural numbers exist, then ω-1 exists. >>> >>> Why? >> >> Because otherwise there was a gap below ω. > > But you combined two different sets, so why can't there be a gap? I assume completness. >> ∀n ∈ ℕ: 1/n - 1/(n+1) > 0. Note the universal quantifier. > > Right, so we can say that ∀n ∈ ℕ: 1/n > 1/(n+1), so that for every unit > fraction 1/n, there exists another unit fraction smaller than itself. No. My formula says ∀n ∈ ℕ. > > Remember, one property of Natural numbers that ∀n ∈ ℕ: n+1 exists. Not for all dark numbers. Regards, WM