Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Defining a correct halting decidability decider Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 13:06:09 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <0ec454016dab6f6d6dd5580f5d0eea49569293d8@i2pn2.org> <6ec9812649b0f4a042edd1e9a1c14b93e7b9a16b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:06:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2215994"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2166 Lines: 27 On 8/11/24 7:37 AM, olcott wrote: > On 8/11/2024 1:24 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-10 11:03:31 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> >>> 1=halts >>> 0=does not halt or pathological relationship to decider >> >> Which does not use the stipulation and therefore does not demonstrate >> its usefulńess. >> >> That a computation has a pathological relationship to some decider >> does not prevent another partial haltdecider from determinig whther >> it halts. >> > > void DDD() > { >   HHH(DDD); >   return; > } > > A pathological relationship to this decider > a non-trivial semantic property of this input. > Nope, because it depends on the decider as well as the input, and thus is NOT a property of JUST the input.