Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: key error in all the proofs --- Mike --- basis Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:31:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <06ea0f3a1ff938643b3dfefdf62af15559593733@i2pn2.org> References: <0f8f134fe961ee00910cce1d7f05b632d7567c6c@i2pn2.org> <86c21e8a63450bf8b0c32f4f17ba0b503a914fe0@i2pn2.org> <2c853efb65c3d8e2d4ba1c484f7002c74c68d895@i2pn2.org> <64ddeeaa3a55a9e410de599bd8df53d3644ee5a3@i2pn2.org> <8318f5969aa3074e542747fe6ba2916d7f599bde@i2pn2.org> <2f8c1b0943d03743fe9894937092bc2832e0a029@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:31:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2522611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3083 Lines: 28 Am Wed, 14 Aug 2024 08:42:33 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 8/14/2024 2:30 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-13 13:30:08 +0000, olcott said: >>> On 8/13/2024 6:23 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 8/12/24 11:45 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>> *DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its* *own >>>>> "return" instruction final halt state, thus never halts* >>>>> >>>> Which is only correct if HHH actuallly does a complete and correct >>>> emulation, or the behavior DDD (but not the emulation of DDD by HHH) >>>> will reach that return. >>>> >>> A complete emulation of a non-terminating input has always been a >>> contradiction in terms. >>> HHH correctly predicts that a correct and unlimited emulation of DDD >>> by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "return" instruction final halt >>> state. >> >> That is not a meaningful prediction because a complete and unlimited >> emulation of DDD by HHH never happens. >> > A complete emulation is not required to correctly predict that a > complete emulation would never halt. What do we care about a complete simulation? HHH isn't doing one. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.