Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 16:37:44 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <332fdac834dd53dbe6a8650e170f08fac33ca2cf@i2pn2.org> <614b136972063ab2c9d5e3d91e4289858ef24f55@i2pn2.org> <9721b1bcc4a6849dabc5d7956754292823381840@i2pn2.org> <5586bed1ae799730f4f5cda602007aa0a67a5b71@i2pn2.org> <2fee2a47a11178b8ec9089878a51aa7ccb410fc2@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ec0d1ee71ceed677a7540299f25b1a73"; logging-data="981755"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Mj5znDb2Ahop9GbwtHNNR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lNbW1TLrf1yNtahlap8v8bVCsIM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3528 On 8/10/2024 4:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/10/24 5:18 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/10/2024 3:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/10/24 4:36 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> As I have countlessly proven it only requires enough correctly >>>> emulated steps to correctly infer that the input would never >>>> reach is "return" instruction halt state. >>> >>> Except that HHH does't do that, since if HHH decides to abort and >>> return, then the DDD that it is emulating WILL return, just after HHH >>> has stopped its emulation. >>> >>> You just confuse the behavior of DDD with the PARTIAL emulation that >>> HHH does, because you lie about your false "tautology". >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Denying a tautology seems to make you a liar. I only >>>> say "seems to" because I know that I am fallible. >>> >>> Claiming a false statement is a tautology only make you a liar. >>> >>> In this case, you lie is that the HHH that you are talking about do >>> the "correct emulation" you base you claim on. >>> >>> That is just a deception like the devil uses, has just a hint of >>> truth, but the core is a lie. >>> >> >> What I say is provably correct on the basis of the >> semantics of the x86 language. > > Nope. > > The x86 language says DDD will Halt if HHH(DDD) returns a value. HHH is called by main() there is no directly executed DDD() any where in the whole computation. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer