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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth --- V4 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:58:40 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <867e1149d7291cfd965b6974aa22f104635f38aa@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:58:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c68d48608550e7e7fabcc3f8200ba7d3"; logging-data="3501940"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+j6LvmbyTgW8sO2A3kz/m6" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:56I+UzFfNSp+kZA+NIA5ftIKt4g= Bytes: 3078 On 2024-08-19 12:34:54 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/19/2024 2:26 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-18 12:48:32 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>> x86utm takes the compiled Halt7.obj file of this c program >>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c >>> Thus making all of the code of HHH directly available to >>> DDD and itself. HHH emulates itself emulating DDD. >> >> It is not an emulation of DDD if the execution differs from a >> real execution of DDD. >> > > *Everything that is not expressly stated below is* > *specified as unspecified* > > void DDD() > { > HHH(DDD); > return; > } > > _DDD() > [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002182] 5d pop ebp > [00002183] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] > > *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to* > *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop* > *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded) > > X = DDD emulated by HHH∞ according to the semantics of the x86 language > Y = HHH∞ never aborts its emulation of DDD > Z = DDD never stops running > > My claim boils down to this: (X ∧ Y) ↔ Z > > void EEE() > { > HERE: goto HERE; > } > > HHHn correctly predicts the behavior of DDD the same > way that HHHn correctly predicts the behavior of EEE. That you add "V4" in to the subject line means that your earlier presentations were not good enough. However, there is nothing above that would give any reason to expect anything better. The most important undefined thing above is the problem. There is only an attempt of a solution without a problem. -- Mikko