Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 11:50:44 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 10:50:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="65f9434b854ff7a88818fe4e27e130bf"; logging-data="2458528"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19T6cnlj4O4PAw+wwBl4axz" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ttw+BF5f72gnOLLdwwpw0BoA4VM= Bytes: 1999 On 2024-08-17 12:31:01 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/17/2024 7:29 AM, olcott wrote: >> void DDD() >> { >>   HHH(DDD); >> } >> >> _DDD() >> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04 >> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp >> [00002183] c3         ret >> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >> >> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to* >> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop* >> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded) >> > > Simulating Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D > That attempt should be discussed separately, and to some extent already is. -- Mikko