Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: A large colonial choanoflagellate from Mono Lake harbors live bacteria Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:42:28 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="27354"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:djjaGY3C48KkyXEDGCWpQ7WceuE= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 28DEC22986F; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:42:44 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7C1A22978C for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:42:41 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1shfne-00000000fKu-18Zz; Sat, 24 Aug 2024 03:42:42 +0200 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBC385F83F for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2024 01:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/BBC385F83F; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 55054DC01A9; Sat, 24 Aug 2024 03:42:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 03:42:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX190CaLxMaFrC9GxqEcDWlWBK7VwMT8mYuw= FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4583 On 8/23/2024 2:59 PM, erik simpson wrote: > https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.01623-24 > > ABSTRACT > As the closest living relatives of animals, choanoflagellates offer > insights into the ancestry of animal cell physiology. Here, we report > the isolation and characterization of a colonial choanoflagellate from > Mono Lake, California. The choanoflagellate forms large spherical > colonies that are an order of magnitude larger than those formed by the > closely related choanoflagellate Salpingoeca rosetta. In cultures > maintained in the laboratory, the lumen of the spherical colony is > filled with a branched network of extracellular matrix and colonized by > bacteria, including diverse Gammaproteobacteria and Alphaproteobacteria. > We propose to erect Barroeca monosierra gen. nov., sp. nov. Hake, > Burkhardt, Richter, and King to accommodate this extremophile > choanoflagellate. The physical association between bacteria and B. > monosierra in culture presents a new experimental model for > investigating interactions among bacteria and eukaryotes. Future work > will investigate the nature of these interactions in wild populations > and the mechanisms underpinning the colonization of B. monosierra > spheres by bacteria. > When it was pointed out on TO that bacteria far outnumber all other lifeforms on the planet I once joked that the designer had obviously created multicellular lifeforms as condominiums for his prize pet bacteria, and that when the designer got around to checking back in that there would be hell to pay when he finds out that one of the condominiums is using things like antibiotics and soap to kill trillions of his pets. Behe may think along the same lines because why else would a designer give a plague bacteria like Y. pestis a flagellum? Ron Okimoto