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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth --- V5
 --- Professor Sipser
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:13:41 -0500
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On 8/29/2024 2:35 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-08-28 12:46:42 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 8/28/2024 7:34 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 28.aug.2024 om 14:07 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 8/28/2024 4:00 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 27.aug.2024 om 15:32 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
>>>>>>      until H correctly determines that its simulated D *would never*
>>>>>>      *stop running unless aborted* then
>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HHH is only required to correctly predict whether or not DDD
>>>>>> *would never stop running unless aborted*
>>>>> And since DDD is calling an HHH that is programmed to detect the 
>>>>> 'special condition', so that it aborts and halts, DDD halts as well 
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> *THIS IS YOUR REASONING*
>>>> If you are hungry and never eat you will remain hungry.
>>>> You are hungry and eat becoming no longer hungry.
>>>> *This proves that you never needed to eat*
>>>
>>> No, apparently, your understanding of logic English is very poor.
>>
>> HHH simulates DDD until it has inductive evidence that
>> in the purely hypothetical case where a different HHH
>> would never abort its emulation of DDD that DDD would
>> never terminate normally.
>>
>> If we don't do it this way then infinite loops always halt.
> 
> I would consider the infinite loops that always halt a more useful result.
> 

A halt decider that always ignores its input and reports
halting is more useful? A decider such as mine would prevent
Denial Of Service (DOS) attacks. Permitting DOS attacks
is less useful.


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