Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:08:07 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <20b1dea98eda49e74e822c96b37565bb3eb36013@i2pn2.org> <7f2a1f77084810d4cee18ac3b44251601380b93a@i2pn2.org> <662de0ccc3dc5a5f0be0918d340aa3314d51a348@i2pn2.org> <02642e518edd3aa9152cd47e4e527f21ee53a0e8@i2pn2.org> <60c0214582c7f97e49ef6f8853bff95569774f97@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:08:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c563859fd10f39d9a1de30e4f18dc670"; logging-data="2971302"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+O+PosJQJCVcU3B9qFKDNj" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:f0A5Nd3D3JSL0/FUfzq10OEdR0Q= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3715 Le 19/08/2024 à 15:07, olcott a écrit : > On 8/19/2024 3:36 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-18 11:47:36 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 8/18/2024 5:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-08-17 14:45:45 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2024 9:40 AM, Richard Damon wrote:>>> >>>>>> No, you said that "ALL THEY DID" was that, and that is just a LIE. >>>>>> >>>>>> They developed a full formal system. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They did nothing besides change the definition of >>>>> a set and the result of this was a new formal system. >>>> >>>> Yes they did. They did show that the new system is similar enough to >>>> the old systems to be called "set theory" and sufficiently useful. >>>> >>> >>> They redefined the notion of a set in set theory and that >>> by itself got rid of Russell's Paradox. Mostly this disallows >>> a set to be a member of itself. >> >> The new notion is restricted to their new system. The general informal >> notion of "set" is unaffected. Some sets, e.q. Quine's atom that >> contains itself and nothing else is not a set in Zermelo's theory >> but is an example of a set according to the general notion. >> >>> I redefine the notion of formal system in math and logic >>> and this by itself gets rids of undecidability. Mostly this >>> rejects self-contradictory expressions. >> >> Math and logic are not formal systems that could be replaced with >> other formal systems. The notion of formal system cannot be redefined. >> You can construct a new formal system where formal system is formally >> defined but that definition has no consequences outside that syatem. >> > > I am doing the same sort of thing that ZFC did to conquer > RP and my end result is that undecidability ceases to exist. > *lol* Oh dear..