Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 13:06:13 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <87mskwy9t1.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <875xrkxlgo.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <87o75bwlp8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <871q27weeh.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829083200.195@kylheku.com> <87v7zjuyd8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829084851.962@kylheku.com> <87mskvuxe9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <875xrivrg0.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829191404.887@kylheku.com> <86cylqw2f8.fsf@linuxsc.com> <871q2568vl.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87cylo494u.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <20240831195350.785@kylheku.com> <86mskrrvco.fsf@linuxsc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 13:06:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="245842e44c78e95d3bc5cb773286c128"; logging-data="2513400"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/jCIYwEteM2rv/KjsslH3akv0fuKuVRQM=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K54ThH/rF5M/sn+3WuGcrfjPfMY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3518 On 09/09/2024 13:03, James Kuyper wrote: > On 9/9/24 04:46, David Brown wrote: >> On 08/09/2024 16:37, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >>> On 08.09.2024 16:12, James Kuyper wrote: > ... >>>> Most important for my purposes, it makes it clear >>>> what's required and allowed by the standard. >> >> No, that is not really true - the C standard is /not/ clear on all >> points. There are aspects of the language that you cannot fully >> understand without cross-referencing between many different sections >> (and there are a few aspects that are not clear even then). That is >> because it is a standard, not a tutorial, and not a language reference. >> A standard is written in more "legalise" language, and makes a point of >> trying to avoid repeating itself - while a good reference will repeat >> the same information multiple times in different places, whenever it >> helps for clarity. > > I will concede your point, but it's still the case that the standard is > clearer about such things than any other source I'm familiar with. I have lost track of which particular "such things" we are talking about here, so you could well be right! The standard /is/ clear on some aspects of C - but not on others. I don't dispute that it is a useful document and one that serious C programmers should aspire to read, but I don't think it is really aimed at "normal" C programmers or useful to them. Perhaps the original writers did not envisage so many non-experts getting involved in C coding.