Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:44:15 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 12:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="347a09bea0f74aba6b28adcca457a6e2"; logging-data="3488120"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19i15BjrQ9iOeKnHC9uUpbT" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:RXohi//9NjSxqeXSSIdMEEgRfHU= Bytes: 2384 On 2024-09-02 12:24:38 +0000, olcott said: > On 9/2/2024 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-09-01 12:56:16 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 8/31/2024 10:04 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> *I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases* >>>> >>>> knowledge is a justified true belief such that the >>>> justification is sufficient reason to accept the >>>> truth of the belief. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem >>>> >>> >>> With a Justified true belief, in the Gettier cases >>> the observer does not know enough to know its true >>> yet it remains stipulated to be true. >>> >>> My original correction to this was a JTB such that the >>> justification necessitates the truth of the belief. >>> >>> With a [Sufficiently Justified belief], it is stipulated >>> that the observer does have a sufficient reason to accept >>> the truth of the belief. >> >> What could be a sufficient reason? Every justification of every >> belief involves other belifs that could be false. > > For the justification to be sufficient the consequence of > the belief must be semantically entailed by its justification. If the belief is about something real then its justification involves claims about something real. Nothing real is certain. If the belief is not about something real then it is not clear whether it is correct to call it "belief". -- Mikko