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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases with mt new notion of {linguistic truth}
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:43:14 +0300
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On 2024-09-09 13:03:54 +0000, olcott said:

> On 9/9/2024 4:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-09-08 13:24:56 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 9/8/2024 4:17 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-07 13:54:47 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/7/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-06 11:17:53 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2024 5:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-05 12:58:13 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2024 2:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-03 13:03:51 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/2024 3:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-02 13:33:36 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2024 5:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-01 03:04:43 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge is a justified true belief such that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justification is sufficient reason to accept the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth of the belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The remaining loophole is the lack of an exact definition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "sufficient reason".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately sufficient reason is correct semantic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entailment from verified facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is "verified" facts: what is sufficient verification?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Stipulated to be true is always sufficient:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cats are a know if animal.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Insufficient for practtical purposes. You may stipulate that
>>>>>>>>>> nitroglycerine is not poison but it can kill you anyway.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The point is that <is> the way the linguistic truth actually works.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've never seen or heard any linguist say so. The term has been used
>>>>>>>> by DG Schwartz in 1985.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is similar to the analytic/synthetic distinction
>>>>>>> yet unequivocal.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am redefining the term analytic truth to have a
>>>>>>> similar definition and calling this {linguistic truth}.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Expression of X of language L is proved true entirely
>>>>>>> based on its meaning expressed in language L. Empirical
>>>>>>> truth requires sense data from the sense organs to be
>>>>>>> verified as true.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems that you don't know about any linguist that has used the term.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I INVENTED A BRAND NEW FREAKING TERM
>>>> 
>>>> Is it really a new term if someone else (DG Schwartz) has used it before?
>>>> Is it a term for a new concept or a new term for an old concept?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> A stipulative definition is a type of definition in which a
>>> new or currently existing term is given a new specific meaning
>>> for the purposes of argument or discussion in a given context.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipulative_definition
>> 
>> A stipulative definition is a temporary hack when it is not clear
>> what the definition should be or when a need for a good definitino
>> is not expected. A stipluative definition is not valid outside the
>> opus or discussion where it is presented.
>> 
>>> *LINGUISTIC TRUTH IS STIPULATED TO MEAN*
>>> When expression X of language L is connected to its semantic
>>> meaning M by a sequence of truth preserving operations P in
>>> language L then and only then is X true in L. That was the
>>> True(L,X) that Tarski "proved" cannot possibly exist.
>>> Copyright 2024 Olcott
>> 
>> With that definition Tarski proved that linguistic truth is not
>> identifiable.
>> 
> 
> No he did not. Tarski's proof that begins with the Liar Paradox
> gets rejected at step (3).

In the system Tarski was using (i.e. ordinary logic) a proof cannot
be rejected.

-- 
Mikko