Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tilde Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang Subject: Re: Pieces and Tunes -- Composing in a dream Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 23:09:18 -0600 Organization: squiggle Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 07:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9b892e947ac61274953aa6b0e534adf2"; logging-data="1356824"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Yb6wa41AhuVgctqKNx45R" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rQNPw+asOmdipq3/EnLnROwucms= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3226 HenHanna wrote: > On 7/2/2024 3:12 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >> Adam Funk wrote or quoted: >> |Is that a P D Q Bach piece? >> >>    Two days ago, I heard a simple and beautiful slow piece, not >>    too fast, with one and two voices (i.e., notes played at the >>    same time) played on a classical guitar (with nylon strings). >> >>    I thought that - if I would practice it carefully - I should be >>    able to play that piece. I wanted to do this. Then, I woke up. >>    It was a kind of an acoustic dream. > > i've had similar experience a few times.... > >                One time, it was so good that  i hummed it into my PC. > > >>>    there are a few interesting cases where sleep played a crucial > role in the creative process: > > Paul McCartney and "Yesterday":         McCartney famously claims the > melody for "Yesterday" came to him in a dream. He woke up with the song > in his head, unsure if he'd actually written it or dreamt it. He > presented it to friends and other musicians, concerned it might be a > subconscious plagiarism, but no one recognized it. "Yesterday" became a > massive hit for The Beatles. > >               ---------- i guess George was once sued, and lost > > Niccolo Paganini and the Devil's Violin Concerto:     This is more > legend than fact, but the story goes that Paganini, a virtuoso violinist > and composer, sold his soul to the devil in exchange for unmatched > musical talent. One version of the legend claims he composed his most > famous piece, the "Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Minor," in a dream after > making the pact. > > Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his Requiem:       While not entirely > composed in a dream, Mozart claimed the opening bars of his Requiem came > to him in a dream, a premonition of his own death. Creativity, lucidity, in dreams is something that has been noted for some and is not limited to music - poetry like Coleridge's "Kubla Khan", Benson "The Phoenix". My favorite is Kekule's dream of the structure of benzene.