Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Does Apple normally add the UK when the EU forces Apple to care about its customers? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:10:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 22:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="978edfb966b4523b498160fe0ca4c625"; logging-data="3873492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/R6XOvWjU1MgG646t/PpAiDvLTVXRmi9o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:azWEn35OA0x92457F5XO2Ndttks= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3016 On 2024-09-17 10:16, Java Jive wrote: > On 2024-09-17 13:33, Alan Browne wrote: >> On 2024-09-16 16:50, Java Jive wrote: >>> On 2024-09-16 17:07, Alan Browne wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2024-09-15 12:20, Java Jive wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2024-09-14 16:26, Alan Browne wrote: >>>>>  > >>>>>  > The European USB-C fiasco just creates more e-waste. >>>> >>>> Not the point, of course.  Apple's path was clear - forcing the >>>> issue had no effect on e-waste. >>> >>> Self-contradiction. >> >> Not at all.  You're neglecting that there are tons of perfectly well >> functioning Lightning based accessories and cables out there.  Forcing >> Apple to USB-C (1 year early) did nothing but accelerate a need for >> more cables and (too a lesser degree) accessories. > > If you can't see that "forcing the issue had no effect on e-waste" > directly contradicts "European USB-C fiasco just creates more e-waste" > then you're obviously too stupid to be worth arguing with, and there's > absolutely no point in continuing this discussion > > Re-instates plonk filters. > I think what would have made his statement clearer would have been the word "positive". 'Not the point, of course. Apple's path was clear - forcing the issue had no POSITIVE effect on e-waste.' But forcing the issue does mean that many useful devices will be replaced while they are still useful. That is wasteful.