Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tweed Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Does Apple normally add the UK when the EU forces Apple to care about its customers? Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:12:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="09e2c34650ffa88b940e9eeea78f76b0"; logging-data="2358476"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MZHMCcuE12Ko4Q+TlT0tm" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rXAsONRRrXXv8ONK7pszLhPYtpw= sha1:u4wsTecomeo5tpLOqshviKePd5s= Bytes: 4006 Chris wrote: > Tweed wrote: >> Bill Powell wrote: >>> Apple should be able to make any connector it wants to make. >>> Even one which is designed specifically to prevent interaction. >>> >>> If people would just stick only to Apple products, they'd be fine >>> as there's no need for interoperability if you buy only Apple product. >>> >>> As Tim Cook openly said, "Buy your mom an iPhone" if you want your device >>> to work with another company's products. It's all Apple around here. >>> >>> So it shouldn't matter if nobody else uses Apple's connector. >>> It's a free and openly competitive world market, isn't it? >>> >> >> Thing is, Apple didn’t even have inter operability between its own >> products. > > Agree. And I've said this before on here. > > Apple didn't transition to USB-C from USB-A well or consistently. When Macs > lost USB-A ports phones should have gone the same way shortly after. > > What happened instead is that Apple bundled phones with USB-A - lightning > charges for years without an ability to charge your phone with your Mac. In > all that time they sold billions of phones with USB-A chargers. > > Then, when they transitioned to USB-C, only at one end of the cable, they > also removed the charger (apart from ones model). So forced everyone to buy > chargers. > >> MacBooks have had USB-C for years (you can’t push enough power >> through a Lightning connector) So you couldn’t use your Mac charger to >> charge your Lightning connector iPhone or iPad or ear phones. Now you can. >> I’d understand reluctance to move to usb-c if there were any significant >> technical downsides, but I can’t see any. It supports a wider range of >> charge voltages than Lightning, has a more robust connector, (though some >> disagree about this) and supports a much wider range of protocols including >> high speed video. Lightning was a much better technical and mechanical >> solution than micro USB, but it is now technically and commercially >> obsolete. > > Agree. Lightning should have died 3-4 years ago. > > I wonder if Covid and the semi conductor shortage had anything to do with Lightning hanging on longer than it should? All manufacturers in all electronics sectors had supply problems, mainly with the dull low value devices - such as usb and power supervisory chips. As Apple had a monopoly with Lightning in phones perhaps they had fewer problems getting hold of these parts. Just speculating.