Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 09:25:42 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <0001HW.2C98E6BB008FA149700000A5A38F@news.supernews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d63d5e7e2d91276df0d1c0ac99a6c08"; logging-data="3790529"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wymFa5anvumkWLCAoKiWcB2CL1RkVBps=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jV7kXbtzanK7CYh+Imbq4W1hCbg= Bytes: 3778 On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:57:42 -0700, a425couple wrote: >On 9/16/24 15:20, WolfFan wrote: >> On Sep 16, 2024, quadibloc wrote >> (in article): >>=20 >>> Someone who persists in spreading lies about the Haitians of >>> Springfield, even after they've led to bomb threats, isn't >>> "epic" no matter how he is painted. >>> >>> John Savard >>=20 >> Especially when he and JD say that there are 20,000 of them in = Springfield >> when there are 5400 or so Haitians in the entire state of Ohio. For = some >> reason Ohio ain=92t high on the list of places Haitians want to go to.= =20 > >I think your sources are way out of date. >Numerous sources are citing the 20,000 figure. In 1516, Erasmus published a critical text of the New Testament in Greek ("textus receptus"). It was based on the theory that, when "numerous sources" had a reading for a particular verse, that was the correct reading. But that was poor thinking. The reason most Greek texts read, for example, "peace on earth, good-will towards men" is because they were copies of copies of relatively recent texts. The texts which read "peace on earth to men of good will" were older texts -- and so more likely to be correct. I use this example because it is arguably the most famous of the differences between the KJV and RSV. Entire books (well, pamphlets, mostly) were written on how evil the RSV was, and this verse was prominently featured. And you are using the same logic. Numerous sources can cite the 20,000 figure all they want to, it doesn't matter. What matters is what truly is. Even if only one source provides it. Even if that one source is the Federal gummint, which those pushing this lie do not trust because it is run by Democrats. There is also the Vance factor: he has /admitted/ that he made the "eating pets" story up and claims he was justified because it was the only way to make it clear what immigration is doing to this country. Note that that is /his/ view, not mine. IOW, he has admitted that there is no actual evidence of such harm, which seems ridiculous since there are a lot of immigrants and surely some of them are bad apples. Given the problems his /admitted/ lie has caused, perhaps some legal action against him (and Trump) would be appropriate. It would, of course, take a long time to go anywhere, Trump being the Poster Boy, as it were, for Rich White Male Legal Privilege. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"