Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT: Surely there's an SF story with this..... Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 09:27:47 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 18:27:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="111590193d0452df84b159c2377f97a6"; logging-data="4109336"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CRhDaOOmVr8Ait2uAaP+3DNwDiaa/Gtw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:OcnBOIYQSPvkbzOsLD8kyAZhgoc= Bytes: 3776 On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:49:53 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote: >On 9/3/2024 1:13 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote: >> On 9/2/2024 12:01 PM, Paul S Person wrote: >>> On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 14:16:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The Soviets did try a 20 meter mirror, which very >>>> briefly provided light on a rapidly moving 5km spot >>>> on the ground, equivalent to 'several full moons'. >>>> >>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-turned-night-into-day/ >>>> >>>> So, yes, maybe you could provide a light with some usefulness >>>> for a few minutes, if the mirror was steered to point to one >>>> spot. Reflect Orbitals claim is that they can provide >>>> light for 4 minutes at a time. >>>> >>>> The ISS can be in sight for as long as 6.5 minutes on a pass, so >>>> RO's mirrors must be lower. That's good for being bright, but also >>>> means they're subject to a lot of drag from remnant traces of >>>> atmosphere, and will need to either have propulsion to keep on >>>> station, or be replaced frequently. >>> >>> If they were far enough out, they would be over the same spot for a >>> lot longer than that. Have to be a /really/ big mirror, though. >>> >>>> The suggestion to use RO's mirrors to power solar plants is a >>>> total non-starter. The mirror can't deliver more light than >>>> falls on it, and if its spread over several kilometers on the >>>> ground, its just not bright enough to do anything useful, quite >>>> aside from the idea that powering one for less than 5 minutes >>>> has a use case. >>>> >>>> Finally, you'd piss off every astronomer and stargazer on Earth. >>> >>> IIRC, Musk's satellite clouds have already done that. >>=20 >> Yes, and Starlink has gone to considerable effort to >> mitigate the problem, with significant (but not total) >> success. >>=20 >> The constellation the Chinese are starting to put up >> looks like very bad news, though. >>=20 >> pt > >Especially when the Chinese space ship broke apart in orbit into 300+=20 >pieces at 800 km LEO. > https://www.space.com/china-megaconstellation-launch-space-junk >and > =20 >https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1eo0nbi/chinese_rocket_breaks_ap= art_after/ > >People are very unhappy as this is not the first time the Chinese have=20 >done this. A classic case of externalized costs. So, the Chicoms /are/ turning Capitalist after all. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"