Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Higher Education Is Overrated Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:11:13 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <9qrfcj93d7aaig8lb0onaudcogvcnt6prk@4ax.com> <%J2zO.993860$MC82.650601@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 23:11:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4345e9e81f0632a8e07d4d1d542fb6c3"; logging-data="1221703"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19+I27TJWhWj2b6FHpqEj3M" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:yH2tFAg1mEu4VdlH7s1V1+plvco= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3217 On 8/31/2024 3:55 PM, cyclintom wrote: > On Wed Aug 28 11:25:54 2024 AMuzi wrote: >> On 8/28/2024 11:20 AM, cyclintom wrote: >>> On Mon Aug 26 12:50:20 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:14:35 GMT, cyclintom >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The strongest long bow I ever saw had a draw of 80 lbs and I can't imagine 100 lb pull. You have to hold the string hooked over your middle three fingers and how the hell do you hold 100 lbs that way? Not to mention what it would do to your other wrist. Bows might have been long distance weapons but most people used spears. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Although the draw weight of a typical English longbow is disputed, it >>>> was at least 81 pounds-force (360 newtons) and possibly more than 130 >>>> lbf (600 N). Considerable practice was required to produce the swift >>>> and effective combat shooting required. Skeletons of longbow archers >>>> are recognisably affected, with enlarged left arms and often >>>> osteophytes on left wrists, left shoulders and right fingers." >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Meaning, as usual, I was correct and you rooted arouund for any POSSIBLE esception. Well, there's no question that people were MUCH smaller in those days and pulling 130 lbs would have been impossible. I shot long bows and you have done nothing, as usual. You have no idea of what it is like to shoot a long bow. >> >> The contemporary records were falsified? > > > What contemporary records? These for example: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/agincourt/ You could even go to see the originals, maybe work in some cycling with Mr Merriman while you're there. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971