Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 06:28:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 02:28:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 70 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-Desr9yzl2Ch0Is0V41IpXe2LI4Wt2aF70OckB1Va7Ef6Mhz9gMtlvYSz4yfe61vNDXDNLw1mnfIMAfl!WqlflRKqg+3CvIDpPUZS72DvhgsA4K+Ztz4A2I3xGroGUPJ8WjAG4HYPKC9ftthuLjksXfSQjdt+!D9rFYJnvVJ11KEnYbbi8 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3990 On 9/24/24 4:01 AM, D wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> On 9/21/24 8:03 AM, Farley Flud wrote: >>> Rust is laughable garbage. >>> >>> Some jerk at Mozilla cobbles some shit together and it ends >>> up impressing his co-workers, all network "programmers" who >>> are the lowest of the low. >> >>  Look ... 'Rust' is really no better, or worse, than >>  a LOT of existing computer languages. If you LIKE >>  its vibe, USE it. If not, DON'T >> >>  Python wasn't always popular. Took time to build >>  a real following. >> >>  Me, I'd rather use 'C' ... which was a brand new >>  language when I got into computers - it was the >>  Cool New Thing on PDP-11s. However the syntax IS, >>  and especially can be MADE, a bit obscure. More >>  'obvious', 'self-documenting' langs DO have an >>  advantage. >> >>  Still have my K&R 'C' book - and stick pretty >>  much TOO it. I'd also rec "Algorithms in 'C'" >>  by Sedgewick. STILL consult that. >> >>  But my #1 fave is still Pascal. Poetry  :-) >>  Thank you professor Wirth ! >> >>  Oh, "network programming" is HARD ... those people >>  are NOT the "lowest of the low" by any means. The >>  whole Modern World depends on them. >> >>  But then you're just trying to start flames, >>  aren't you ? Try being more productive. >> >>  Hey, want "Real Computing" ? Try FORTRAN >>  or COBOL. THOSE were the foundation and >>  persist to this day. Wrote a FORTRAN app >>  just a couple of years ago - mostly to vex >>  the New Guys. Also a short COBOL app, that >>  oughtta REALLY give 'em the shits !  :-) >> > > Messages like this give me the vibe of an old distinguished professor > writing. These types of messages tend to completely melt the troll in > me. ;) Well, I *was* the Old Guy ... and noted that those moving in to be my replacements knew almost SHIT about programming/systems. THEIR 'fix' is to go Office-365 Online stuff. That way they don't need to KNOW dick except how to pay the bill - and nothing is THEIR fault. I came in when you could hardly buy ANY software, or appropriate hardware for that matter. Spent a lot of time with a soldering iron and 8051/PIC/logic chips to get the Desired Results. Such fun using DDL to expand interrupt-pin functionality. DigiKey and Tandy got a LOT of money from me :-) THEN you had to be a jack-of-all-trades, NOW you just Charge It to M$ and hope for the best. That's what "IT" means now. NOT for the best. Vlad's boyz WILL destroy it and the world will STOP.