Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: 2 Oct 2024 02:12:10 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1114392917.749421134.280786.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <066d7009-983d-3dc8-b78f-bc37a915da18@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net KsLZFxjx2InbAC0ruI0XIAxSTQdshavOTD+pBNerwgv73clIAg Cancel-Lock: sha1:AXdEQ6i/iWL/PhBs9J4b9vzrunU= sha256:cMYTKBmgskJgmYeEwCVDOhDFIeCIeIIoM4oLRAehFOA= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2877 On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 21:28:14 +0200, D wrote: > I think there's some old programmer saying from the beginning of time, > that says something like the third time I completely rewrite the program > it gets done right. Over the years new buzzwords like agile have been tacked on but my process always started with the assumption that the client didn't know what they really wanted. Throw together a quick and dirty prototype with enough functionality that they can play with it. Take notes on the complaints, modify the prototype. Rinse and repeat until they're mostly happy. Scrap the prototype, possibly retaining some code, and build the product. There is a related process I call 'reconnaisance by fire'. That's when you're handed an API that you're pretty sure is incomplete, inconsistent, and missing vital information. Build the interface, test it, find out where it fails, and try something else. If you're lucky the other party will be helpful although I have had instances where they were hostile. The most important part is not developing an ulcer while dealing with human nature. Easily perturbed people probably should try another career path.