Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: Pi4 to Pi5 migration Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:37 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <6664f500@news.ausics.net> <66678cd1@news.ausics.net> <66680dc4@news.ausics.net> <666e3aae@news.ausics.net> <20240617023723.fea7a2ffaba9784eaeeecad0@eircom.net> Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 20:03:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2ac3b393864ed8fe0fc4abbce2f23140"; logging-data="908736"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18UkbSmhlVkyAxBoSzoVGFfemz0ijowgM0=" User-Agent: tin/2.6.2-20221225 ("Pittyvaich") (FreeBSD/14.0-RELEASE-p6 (arm64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:s4eeevq6HGQX8BtQAgohRfu/Ye8= Bytes: 2454 Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:42:41 -0000 (UTC) > wrote: > >> Indeed. It's interesting to note that about ten years have > ... >> That's about how long it took from the advent of the i386 to >> the general availability of *nix clones. > > More like five years, the 80386 came out in 1987. There were BSD > ports available by 1993 and the first Linux release was in 1991. However > that's just open source - There were commercial XENIX and Interactive ports > earlier - even for the 80286. We're comparing different endpoints. I started with 386BSD and it could be made to install and run by about 1992, but that alone was an accomplishment for a non-expert like me. It took a few more years to become _usable_ by non-experts, in the form of FreeBSD. Maybe I'm off a little on the dates (I learned of 386BSD about a year after the Byte Magazine series by Jolitz) but then it was still very fiddly. By about 1997-8 I was using FreeBSD for email. Others were doubtless quicker on the uptake, but they were a select group. I was (and am) merely an early-adopting consumer. Thanks for posting, bob prohaska