Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Robertson Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: heating a cap Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:09:26 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: spam@flippers.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 16:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="462b5cc723361e0517bbffed4de17a5c"; logging-data="277298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18z1qqDdjo+I77x09rWzk2kPE1O1AiHlII=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:96QDJ2hyABtRLrXsDD0mPv66Y1s= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US, en-CA Bytes: 2360 On 2024-10-03 4:36 p.m., john larkin wrote: > I got a small (under 1" long) aluminum electro cap, 220 uF 63v, and > cranked up the voltage. It started drawing a bunch of current at 105 > volts, got hot, and folded back to 80 mA at 87v. > > It got too hot to touch in a couple of minutes, after roughly 500 > joules. Freeze spray let it go back up to 100 volts or so. > > None of that seemed to damage it, so an electrolytic cap sort of has a > built-in MOV. > Caps have vents...eventually the electrolyte with evaporate and outgas and you are left with a slug of aluminum foil. I've seen many thousands of caps fail over the decades, you don't want to push them above 85c (even if rated at 105c) unless you like short lifetimes. Heck even caps that are never over 50c will dry out eventually - 20 to 30 years in many cases. Seals aren't perfect. I assume SMD electrolytics are the same. Let's not talk about stress testing tantalum caps - "Bang!". John ;-#)# -- (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup) John's Jukes Ltd. #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."