Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel...
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:18:55 +0000
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Message-ID: <e869564c7aec3d40d2ac8b5aa003cef4@www.novabbs.org>
References: <2024Aug30.161204@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <memo.20240830164247.19028y@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vasruo$id3b$1@dont-email.me> <2024Aug30.195831@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vat5ap$jthk$2@dont-email.me> <vaunhb$vckc$1@dont-email.me> <vautmu$vr5r$1@dont-email.me> <2024Aug31.170347@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vavpnh$13tj0$2@dont-email.me> <vb00c2$150ia$1@dont-email.me> <505954890d8461c1f4082b1beecd453c@www.novabbs.org> <vb0kh2$12ukk$1@dont-email.me> <vb3smg$1ta6s$1@dont-email.me> <vb4q5o$12ukk$3@dont-email.me> <vb6a16$38aj5$1@dont-email.me> <jwv8qw8o7zg.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> <vb85a3$3gq7e$2@dont-email.me> <vbaf4s$3vcq1$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
	logging-data="867889"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
	posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A";
User-Agent: Rocksolid Light
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$p51oO79RHpAhb/OJI.NNAe5X.nO1qe/uefH6xUOQ2YNBf4cvXfvu2
X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8
Bytes: 2690
Lines: 30

On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:15:24 +0000, Brett wrote:

> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>> On 03/09/2024 21:28, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>> My impression - based on hearsay for Rust as I have no experience - is
>>>> that
>>>> the key point of Rust is memory "safety".  I use scare-quotes here,
>>>> since it
>>>> is simply about correct use of dynamic memory and buffers.
>>>>
>>>> It is entirely possible to have correct use of memory in C,
>>>
>>> If you look at the evolution of programming languages, "higher-level"
>>> doesn't mean "you can do more stuff".  On the contrary, making
>>> a language "higher-level" means deciding what it is we want to make
>>> harder or even impossible.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> I've heard it said that the power of a programming language comes not
>> from what you can do with the language, but from what you cannot do.
>
> Wrong, the last version of Swift added all the garbage programming
> concepts
> that one should avoid.
>
> You have to give people the tools to do anything.

It is impossible to create a computer programming language where
the programmer cannot shoot himself in the foot.