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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 07:53:26 -0500
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On 7/1/2024 6:08 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/30/24 11:25 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/30/2024 9:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/30/24 9:38 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/30/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/30/24 9:03 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/30/2024 7:44 PM, Richard 
>>>>> Damon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to dumb this down because even the smartest
>>>>>> people here were overwhelmed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The call from DDD to HHH(DDD) when N steps of DDD are
>>>>>> correctly emulated by any pure function x86 emulator
>>>>>> HHH at machine address 0000217a cannot possibly return.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that is NOT the "behavior of the input", and CAN NOT BE SO 
>>>>> DEFINED.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why you so stupidly lie about this.
>>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an
>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And, since the HHH that DDD calls will abort is emulation, it WILL 
>>> return to DDD and it will return also.
>>>
>>
>> How can stopping the emulation the first four
>> instructions of DDD possibly do anything besides
>> cause them to stop?
>>
> 
> The emulation stops, and the emulating behavor of HHH stops, but not the 
> behavior of the input.
> 
While your hand is still in the cash register stealing the
money you say there is no hand and there is no money.



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