Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory Subject: Re: What is your truth maker? (Ws: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:38:35 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:38:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="98ef4f11d97010b63c53911c6d37ff8b"; logging-data="3031218"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2CKBIfQfaWRDc8bL+IPQw" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mlgv/mYiS0Cm/KgHzhbYntTLJhc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3112 On 7/25/2024 1:05 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > My friend gave me this handwriting. He was in > the US and bought an old fire-fighting helmet > for a street selling event in New York City. > > Inside this helmet, probably the place of the > lining, was an old notebook. He had thin cloth > plates and felt the mold. His yellowish leaves > > were burned. In some places the ink was so muddy > that the font was barely recognizable on the > yellow paper. In some places, large parts of > > the text were completely damaged by water and > there were only unreadable ink spots. The > handwriting said: > > The truth is, there are no truth makers > And the square root of a plate of scrambled eggs exists in some scrambled minds. > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Simple corollary: >> >> it and its negation are both true >> >> Proof: Assume it and its negation are both not true >> as Olcott wrote. Which translates to S is not true and >> ~S is not true. What is your truth maker? >> >> Some truth maker, like the situational truth maker, has >> that M |= A <=> ~(M |= ~A). This means ~S is not true, >> is the same like S is true. And S is not true is the >> >> same like ~S is true. And therefore the corollary follows. >> >> Q.E.D. >> >> olcott schrieb: >> >>> "This sentence is not true" is indeed not true and >>> thus satisfies its assertion that it is not true. >>> >>> The fact that it and its negation are both not true >>> meets the criteria of incompleteness thus proving that >>> the notion of incompleteness is incorrect. >>> >> > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer