Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see...
 predict correctly
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 12:03:36 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 42
Message-ID: <c27d1515dc37261302985fc014ea04b6fce872b6.camel@gmail.com>
References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v8a2j5$u4t6$1@dont-email.me>
	 <v8asse$12hr3$2@dont-email.me> <v8aukp$12grj$1@dont-email.me>
	 <v8b00m$12ojm$1@dont-email.me> <v8bchs$15ai5$1@dont-email.me>
	 <v8bh32$15une$1@dont-email.me>
	 <d89f03c5a605f010ec3c83c50137b983dc85848e@i2pn2.org>
	 <v8bl2j$16ibk$2@dont-email.me> <tiuiaj5jf0jqcfcfntko5hufisp8mb93bm@4ax.com>
	 <v8bu91$18b7k$2@dont-email.me>
	 <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com>
	 <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 06:03:37 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4f91746ee1106b7df02c97c2d5328149";
	logging-data="2104516"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18E6JICzMPGQHFcspdjajNC"
User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 (3.50.2-1.fc39)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZLQ5hXy7z3ZDjnAked+LORkO7UQ=
In-Reply-To: <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me>
Bytes: 2661

On Wed, 2024-07-31 at 22:51 -0500, olcott wrote:
> On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote:
> > On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote:
> > >=20
> > > It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem.
> > > it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined
> > > to be non halting.
> > >=20
> >=20
> > But how do you determine it is non-halting?
> >=20
> > As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!!
> >=20
> I have done this thousands of times and after someone
> has read these thousands of times they say that I never
> said it once.
>=20
> void DDD()
> {
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 HHH(DDD);
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 return;
> }
>=20
> int main()
> {
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 HHH(DDD);
> }
>=20
> If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
> reach its return instruction then it never halts.
>=20
>=20

That's right, HHH(DDD) as shown should never halt.

But The Halting Problem asks HHH to return 1 or 0 (so to speak, because you
don't know the detail).

Since HHH does not return 1 or 0 to answer the question, it is not a decide=
r.
You are dealing with POO Problem.