Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:34:13 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <83a2ddb381b16ac04f10a99c0420bbf61e32fbed@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:34:13 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2138841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3613 Lines: 41 Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:29:10 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/4/2024 11:24 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:58:03 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 7/4/2024 10:03 AM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 08:32:10 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 7/4/2024 8:09 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:53:07 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> On 7/4/2024 6:09 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 10:55:14 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2024 10:52 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Similarly, if you think that HHH can simulate itself correctly, >>>>>>>>>> you are wrong. >>>>>>>>>>        int H(ptr p, ptr i); >>>>>>>>>>        int main() >>>>>>>>>>        { >>>>>>>>>>          return H(main, 0); >>>>>>>>>>        } >>>>>>>>>> You showed that H returns, but that the simulation thinks it >>>>>>>>>> does not return. >>>>>>>>> main correctly emulated by H never stops running unless aborted. >>>>>>>> As a matter of fact, H does abort it. H then returns to main, >>>>>>>> which then stops running. >>>>>>> main correctly simulated by H never returns. >>>>>> I was talking about main itself. >>>>> That is not the one that HHH examines. >>>> Huh? HHH examines main. Sure, it doesn’t /simulate/ the return. > The x86utm operating system spawns a separate process so that > H can emulate another different instance of D in this separate process. > H must call DebugTrace() > to switch process contexts to emulate one more instruction of D. Oh, there should also be different instances of H. >>> There is more than one main() process. One of them cannot possibly >>> halt and the other one halts. >> That makes no sense. They have exactly the same code. > It makes no sense only if you are totally clueless of operating system > process contexts. What is their difference? -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.