Path: ...!news.misty.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: key error in all the proofs --- Correction of Fred Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:41:39 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <64ddeeaa3a55a9e410de599bd8df53d3644ee5a3@i2pn2.org> <8318f5969aa3074e542747fe6ba2916d7f599bde@i2pn2.org> <2f8c1b0943d03743fe9894937092bc2832e0a029@i2pn2.org> <06ea0f3a1ff938643b3dfefdf62af15559593733@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 15:41:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c4a0c817977c3965e873c4f304e2b88"; logging-data="2013611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/werS1Ts7S/g4d3fQgf0aM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:pjfZAiXVWum/9TwOvKXqDNCT2lQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3318 On 8/17/2024 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-16 14:09:40 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/16/2024 8:34 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-08-16 12:02:00 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> >>>> I must go one step at a time. >>> >>> That's reasonable in a discussion. The one thing you were discussing >>> above is what is the meaning of the output of HHH. Its OK to stay >>> at that step until we are sure it is understood. >>> >> >> void DDD() >> { >>    HHH(DDD); >>    return; >> } >> >> Unless an unlimited emulation of DDD by HHH >> can reach the "return" instruction of DDD it is >> construed that this instance of DDD never halts. > > Whaatever you "construe" does not change the fact that DDD specifies > a halting computation if HHH does. > >> For three years now at least most reviewers insisted >> on disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language. > > If you claim that HHH halts and DDD doesn't you disagree with > the semantics of both C and x86 languages. > Please see my new post. I do not have the time to deal with any less precise specification. [Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth] -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer