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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: Re: Is Rust the culprit? (Was: What about the Holy Grail?)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:26:04 +0200
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If Rust is the culprit, I guess it isn't
due to this speculation:

Imagine Rust failed, why did it fail?
https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/c93upr/imagine_rust_failed_why_did_it_fail/

"climate change causes massively increased methane
offgassing in the Arctic, causing a runaway greenhouse
effect that eventually turns Earth into Venus,
destroying the biosphere before rust
can gain widespread adoption"

There are other signs that Rust is a failure, like here:

Why Rust is Making You Fail. --> 1.1k Claps
https://medium.com/@ChadJohnsonOfficial/why-rust-is-stopping-your-success-use-c-and-c-instead-586dc7e2edbc

And here:

Should we call Rust a failed programming language? --> 10.5 views
https://www.quora.com/Should-we-call-Rust-a-failed-programming-language

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Maybe Scryer Prolog is a failure, because Rust
> is a failure. Building Scryer Prolog on my machine,
> after a git pull of a small change, did just
> 
> take this much time:
> 
> $ time cargo build --release
> [...]
> real    6m52.663s
> user    7m39.043s
> sys     0m3.241s
> 
> What did Rust do? And this tabling test case,
> 2000 shuttle, hangs:
> 
> /* Scryer Prolog 0.9.4-107 */
> ?- use_module(library(tabling)).
>     true.
> ?- [user].
> :- table c/1.
> c(X) :- c(Y), 0 =< Y, Y < 20000, X is -Y-1.
> c(X) :- c(Y), -20000 < Y, Y =< 0, X is -Y+1.
> c(0).
> 
> ?- time(c(_)).
> %%% hangs ? %%%
> 
> It is solved in a blink in SWI-Prolog:
> 
> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.8 */
> ?- time(c(_)).
> % 540,077 inferences, 0.047 CPU in 0.051 seconds (92% CPU, 11521643 Lips)
> true .
> 
> The test case is from here:
> 
> https://github.com/JanWielemaker/tabling_benchmarks/tree/master