Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: VMS Software Bootcamp 2024 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:06:21 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <7c6e9a918559f88f5bce8b69e461dcfdec96ba30@i2pn2.org> <66e465e9$0$705$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 01:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="830c6c231e366e22265cd8273d1f5b61"; logging-data="3923290"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+vHjm+50nwj7CRvxuveU29N6iRi45fB68=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:D7NXTzbv0Tno/wp348AXlCntUD4= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2306 On 9/17/2024 3:42 PM, Tom Wade wrote: >> I must admit I was a bit surprised to see it written in the way it was >> as I am much more used to a 24-hour clock. I don't know if that's more >> of a European thing than a US thing however. > > I was quite disappointed to see it written that way.  VMS has always > used 24 hour time, and the traditional DECUS US agendas were also listed > that way, with sessions starting at 08:00 and some days ending at 23:00. The traditional VMS time text format is pretty good. Very difficult to misunderstand. Of course in most programming languages today you can specify the format to use. $ show time 17-SEP-2024 19:03:14 $ type now.groovy import java.text.* df1 = new SimpleDateFormat("HH:mm") df2 = new SimpleDateFormat("hh:mm a") now = new Date() println(df1.format(now)) println(df2.format(now)) $ groovy now.groovy 19:03 07:03 PM $ type now.py from time import * now = time() print(strftime('%H:%M', localtime(now))) print(strftime('%I:%M %p', localtime(now))) $ python now.py 19:03 07:03 PM Arne