Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: WM and end segments... Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 14:20:09 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <87ed7m7349.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <0QcM9G1omJ2PKIjSNt0DAeubbXs@jntp> <6I1T1h4irpLul8CAHSeRU-rELD8@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 23:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0307fbf971d8559d1911245420400168"; logging-data="1451356"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fIzgtChZkgnM6s6qzQXc15Yavnjlok5E=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xEz45Zhb2KSPyMTYDBsZ+H9aWmc= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2883 On 7/23/2024 1:34 PM, Moebius wrote: > Am 23.07.2024 um 22:03 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: > > On 7/23/2024 12:57 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > >> "LLLLLLLL....." is an infinite expression, indeed.... > > No, it's not. I am not in the programming world where "LLLLLLLL....." is a string literal, so to speak. Think if LLLLLLLL..... representing an endless string of L's. So, grab next would always return an L. So a finite shorthand for the infinite expansion? Fair enough? > Hint: It consists of 8 "L"s and 5 "."s, in total of 13 characters. No? Sure, but this consists of ".(9)" 4 characters, or 5 with the NUL in C/C++, yet, say it translates into .(9), aka endless nines, aka one in base 10. Right? A parser can do this. > (A programmer really should know this! :-) Of course I do. > > So, it can be reduced to: > > > > (L) = LLL... ? Fair enough? > > More math like, defining it as an infinite sequence: > >     (c_n)_(n e IN) with c_n = "L" for all n e IN. :-P > > We'd usually write (a term referring to) this sequence the following way: > >     ("L", "L", "L", ...) . > > :-P > > Of course, most mathematicains would just write > >     (L, L, L, ...) > > when it's clear that "L" is not some sort of variable or arbitrary > constant but should refer to the letter "L". :-P > > Hint: WM does not even know how to write terms for (i.e. referring to) > infinite sequences properly. Big time!