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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:43:31 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 06:05:39 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On the other hand, if the salesman is a dork you can accomplish a lot
> more by letting a programmer jump in.  (I've been said programmer.)

So have I.

> Best of all is if one of the client's techies is present - then the two
> of you can bypass your filters and really get things worked out.

Bliss!

Though that’s only relevant if the company is big enough. In my last few 
jobs, I was the (self-employed) techie and I was talking directly to the 
client company’s IT Manager (who did everything IT-related), or even to 
the company’s boss (because he was the one who did everything IT-related).