Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Krishna Myneni Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: 0 SET-ORDER why? Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 05:13:39 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <2024Jun26.094910@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Jun28.175045@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <6680c10c$1@news.ausics.net> <5c6520a0dd123d02281bb631ae5389dc@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 12:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f5cc790751f949ac7d1d5bc57fd0a9e"; logging-data="1088512"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Ktdnh6Hs4TyLTiyhMA0EO" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:w970RwO69x7sKIy24+Pnkfe9XK4= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2735 On 7/1/24 04:02, Ruvim wrote: > On 2024-07-01 05:49, Krishna Myneni wrote: >> On 6/30/24 15:37, minforth wrote: >>> My "implementation-defined option" 0 SET-ORDER locks everyone out. >>> Too bad if you and I are one of them. >>> >>> I want it that way. I don't like backdoors unless I created them >>> on purpose. >> >> If the community has no issue with retaining 0 SET-ORDER then the >> standard's wording should be revised to say that the minimum search >> order is the empty search order, i.e. zero wordlists. > > > Do you mean it's confusing that the search order can contain fewer word > lists than the implementation defined "minimum search order"? > > And if the term "minimum search order" is renamed to "small search > order" (as an example), will this solve the problem? > > I wonder if the original proposal for SET-ORDER meant to say "minimal" instead of "minimum", for argument -1, thereby leading to the inference that the words FORTH-WORDLIST and SET-ORDER always be present in the search order. We need to check where else in the standard the term "minimum search order" appears. For the specification of SET-ORDER with argument -1 replacing "minimum" with "minimal" would avoid some confusion. -- Krishna