Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:26:54 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <20241007132654.00006aa2@yahoo.com> References: <20241001123426.000066c1@yahoo.com> <2024Oct1.182625@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Oct3.085754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241006135119.00007dd7@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2024 12:26:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2655464014886edffcf2dd8f1cf2f905"; logging-data="1727727"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/F41z3yhcWH34XpJHvPXKv7kijAj5dqio=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:kD3g9xcRmV3Qu5kCRuWEigjBZcI= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2369 On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:34:04 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:51:19 +0300, Michael S wrote: >=20 > > Intel's current financial woes do not appear to be [directly] > > related to Intel PC (laptops+desktop) sails that are right now > > pretty good and profitable. =20 >=20 > x86 chip sales have been declining for years. At one time they were > up to a million per day; nowadays it=E2=80=99s only about 80% of that. That can explain slow shift from being crazily profitable to "just" very very profitable. It's not nearly enough to explain several consecutive quarters of big losses. > And > you see the trouble they have keeping up in performance, microcode > bugs etc. All adds up to competitiveness trouble. No, I don't see it. What I see that in absolute performance per thread four companies are head and shoulders above of the rest of the industry. Two out of the four make ARM, other two make x86.