Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ... industry standard stipulative definitions Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:01:02 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <1071eb58637e27c9b2b99052ddb14701a147d23a@i2pn2.org> <58fef4e221da8d8bc3c274b9ee4d6b7b5dd82990@i2pn2.org> <99541b6e95dc30204bf49057f8f4c4496fbcc3db@i2pn2.org> <72315c1456c399b2121b3fffe90b933be73e39b6@i2pn2.org> <1180775691cf24be4a082676bc531877147202e3@i2pn2.org> <7e79306e9771378b032e6832548eeef7429888c4@i2pn2.org> <01a0b3f782aeafebc2435eced402848307c2b177@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:01:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7f05503354eec5ee8ccd6a83bd8fd864"; logging-data="4010612"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bEego9ZXNiL0oEs3q3lBH" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JBxM+vzsjmlVYWtmJBukhLno1l8= Bytes: 3418 On 2024-10-17 00:06:07 +0000, Richard Damon said: > On 10/16/24 1:14 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/16/2024 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-10-15 12:33:47 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 10/15/2024 3:54 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-10-14 16:05:20 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> A stipulative definition is a type of definition in which >>>>>> a new or currently existing term is given a new specific >>>>>> meaning for the purposes of argument or discussion in a >>>>>> given context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipulative_definition >>>>>> >>>>>> *Disagreeing with a stipulative definition is incorrect* >>>>> >>>>> The Wikipedia page does not say that. It only says that a stipulative >>>>> definition itself cannot be correct. >>>> >>>> If X cannot be incorrect then disagreeing that X is correct >>>> is incorrect. >>> >>> While agreement with a definition is incorrect in some sense one >>> can choose whether to accept the or reject the definition. >>> >>>>> It says nothing about disagreement. >>>>> In particular, one may diagree with the usefulness of a stipulative >>>>> definition. >>>> >>>> It seems that my reviewers on this forum make being disagreeable >>>> a top priority. >>> >>> Irrelevant. >> >> Not at all. If reviewers are lying about my work >> that is libelous. > > Which means you need to actual prove that something is a lie, and not > that you just disagree with it. At least where I live such proof is not needed. It is sufficient that the insulting statement is not proven. -- Mikko