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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:47:13 +0200
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On 14/09/2024 09:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 29.08.2024 21:36, David Brown wrote:
>> On 29/08/2024 18:44, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>> On 29.08.2024 14:30, David Brown wrote:
>>>> On 29/08/2024 09:28, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Then don't use vim - use an editor that suits your needs.
>>> [...]
>>
>>> But what makes you think that his needs are not covered by Vim?
>>
>> You seem to have missed the point - sorry if I was not clear.
>>
>> He complained that he didn't want to learn complicated macros in Vim
>> just to be able to indent or un-indent lines of code.  The solution is
>> obvious - he should use an editor other than Vim.
> 
> This is not what I'd call a solution. I'd call it elusion; and in both
> senses - if he didn't use his editor for that space-indenting because
> he doesn't know how to do it he could look that up, but it is not any
> issue to do that, only more laborious than indenting brace structures,
> and the suggestion to switch to another tool is also elusive because
> it doesn't address the issue (he would still have to learn how to do
> it in any other tool). - But that was not the point.
> 

This thread died out two weeks ago, and should have been left there.


I didn't suggest he switch to a different tool - I suggested he /didn't/ 
switch to a tool that he didn't want to learn.  But I do think it is 
worth learning some of the basic features of the tools you use regularly.

That is all completely independent of what anyone likes or dislikes 
about a particular aspect of any particular language.